Pussy whipped? Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. We also know on June 9th, Shanann had a massive meltdown at Cindy Watts home, an event that occurred plumb in the middle between Mothers Day and Fathers Day. Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. Her Thrivinga bomb waiting to go off. You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. Watts Family Tapes: A World Exclusive Prison Visit with - Facebook Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. Let me end with saying that I dont know what happened that night, but I think that its a tragedy we can all expect to learn from. Cookie Notice Now we know why. After Chris admitted to the murders, Ronnie and Cindy each gave statements to the court. He gets along well with JAMIE and her husband. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I think she also said somewhere that shell fight for him no matter what. NOTHING. Thank you! Quite a start huh? The text messages where she almost expects Chris to be reading her mindoverall there are just a lot of red flags that tell me she was likely a very toxic partner. Cindy Watts had a great hand in manipulating her daughter and husband to side with her against Shannan. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. and our Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? There isnt a book. Cindy said they didnt go because she hated Shanann even back then, and was angry because Chris would not obey her wish for him to stop being with her. All their old friends have said the same thing. The Watts family seems so weird and like they're missing the empathy "gene." This thread is archived Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Chris Watts did. We know in the months leading up to the murders, for Fathers Day [June 17th, 2018] Shanann posted pictures of her father on her wedding day. Chris Watts Wiki, Age, Girlfriend, Wife, Children, Family, Biography I grew up in upper middle class. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? Jamies husband has worked hard getting his job. We have a great relationship because of that. I think there was never a talk as he described and he surprised her in her sleep. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? I dont want him to take this plea deal. Two camps? Lets listen: CINDY: I dontseewhy hes pleading guilty. Such a terribly sad case. If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. Its practically unheard of unless family is estranged and in this case I dont think any of them were. She doesnt show up for critical, life-altering-for-immediate-family court dates either, does she? Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side.>>>Very well put Nan. Not sure the outcome. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. Chris Watts is a disgusting excuse for a human being. A whole family of narcissists. So Cindy Watts didnt attend her sons wedding. Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). Especially those girls..Indeed she loathed Shanann, but not her grand daughters. Nonetheless why risk it? Great relationship, so its hard for me to picture dynamics like what Shanann and Cindy had. Cindy insisted her son is not a sociopath and justice had not been served. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Cookie Notice From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. Previous post 10 X Audio Excerpts from the TWO FACE series read by the author [Includes the Story behind what went into writing the various narratives] Next post "The reason the medical examiner found Oxycodone in Shan'ann's system is because I gave it to her" - Chris Watts CW's sister Jamie : r/Chriswatts - Reddit And they can record all they want. He's also said it over the phone to people. I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. But back to the original topic, Cindy did not try to kill Cece. The one where Cici had turned around and I got a really good close up picture of her and I used that, 64-year-old Cindy said. Your stories not over. Chris Watts, on the other hand, killed his pregnant wife AND his two living children. Learn about the nut incident that happened when Shanann took the girls to his family for a visit. How would it look if there was a serious reaction? If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. Or read etc. He decided not to create waves. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. A while back, I saw a video of Chris, Shanann, Bella and CeeCee with Chris parents. The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23. Not the other way around. His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. Your Content is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Hes going to die in prison. Not sure what more she wanted in a daughter-in-law. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. That likely would have changed everything. That argument falls apart when you consider Shanann and Cindy didnt get along. She works with patients in home care. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. I would never go by myself with my children to visit such a vicious woman like Cindi. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? And if you read Chris and Shannans communications she was just a very strong woman who was perhaps on the self centered side, and while she loved Chris, I dont think she knew or understood how domineering she could be. The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think.. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. Everyone closely connected to this dreadful situation seem v strange, So not so sure about your Rzucek normal family scenario. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. Im not going to name them. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? Cindy Watts interview with WCNC.com feels genuine, especially this part of the transcript. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. But she disregarded the allergies. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Reddit - Dive into anything I mean that is so simple minded and silly. Perhaps they also didnt think that it was that serious? Shes a piece of work, that one. But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. Love your take. "Where the hell. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. The constant bashing of Shanann. I mean, this was planned in advance. These people dont even mention the precious children that their son killed WORST GRANDPARENTS EVERRRRRR!!!! It doesnt end here. Certainly Chris's sister, Jamie, didn't. Jamie had kept well out of Chris and Shan'ann's life for years, since they'd kicked her out of their wedding, in fact. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. And the nut allergy was something that may have been just one more thing that served to accentuate the obvious animosity between Shanann and Cindy. She made that post in a private allergy support page. PDF Colorado Bureau of Investigation INVESTIGATIVE SUPPLEMENT 2018-273/17 I know she didnt attend the court sentencing etc. You sound like one of those men who spend a lot of time online whining on about women. Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. No. Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. Another added, I wish the sister would talk, maybe she can give some insight as to why her brother is a lunatic and as to why he wouldnt just divorce her, screw his tramp on the side and move on., Watts and his then-coworker, Nichol Kessinger, began having an affair in June 2018, two months before the slayings. Havent you held a grudge against anyone, ever? Have a tip? The books provide a much deeper and more thorough analysis. Yes, a lot of mom denial. He should get death penalty. No, thats not quite right either. This is because Chris Watts is a psychopath, a monster and a narcissist nothing more. He was in North Carolina August 1-7, 2018.Growing up, his family attended First Baptist Church on a fairly regular basis. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. Nothing special. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. Shanann just exaggerated the shit out of it, like all their health issuesherself included. The Enmity Against the Rzuceks Runs Deep - Shan'ann's mother-in-law God bless those poor victims. When I see Chris pictures from when he was younger, I see dead eyes. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. "Do you have any idea where she is?" Shanann was trying so damn hard to film a happy family moment, even calling out Poppa or Grandpa. Chris parents never looked back at her, waved or said one word. But Cindy seems to have been quite down to Earth, simple and practical, and Shanann none of those things. 2 counts Send it to us! Chilling moment killer dad Chris Watts calmly buys breakfast roll after It was more about the supervision for Shannan than it was about anything else and she flipped her lid and the kids were hiding behind the curtains because they were scared. Ditto, Nan. Was it for total freedom to have a fresh start? Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring So, Shannans reaction was on point. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. Only someone who is mad could possibly kill his whole family. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. Excellent post! She was scapegoat because she established boundaries. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Part 4 Chris Watts: Loving Guy Who Snapped Or Covert Narcissist? Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. oh, of course. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I think ,Chris killed his daughters because one of them saw their dead mother rolled up in their sheets. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. Your email address will not be published. Id fight. I had a mother in law like Cindy Watts. Where the hell is she in all this? Likewise, Chris's birthplace is Spring Lake, North Carolina, U.S., and his zodiac sign is Taurus. Cindy Watts was in a power game that she couldnt win. All Rights Reserved. The conversation spiraled out of control when Cindy claimed 3-year-old Celeste was a spitting image of her father, who brutally murdered her. I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. Its that simple. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. To be honest, I firmly believe Shanann thought she was above all, when in reality she wasnt. I know its so hard for you Christopher I can see it in your face, I can see it in your eyes. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I know she didn't attend the court sentencing etc. So sad. Privacy Policy. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Thats ridiculous . The nut incident. Estranged from the family? Recently, new documents showed that Nowak visited Watts over 30 times . I have been able to skim through the 2,000 pages of investigation notes. Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. Shanann just stepped in his moms shoes and his mom, like any toxic mother-in-law, was threatened, and didnt go to their wedding. i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. They can go back under their rocks now we have all seen enough. Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. I think he hated Shanann at the moment he killed her. Maybe for peace . Their behavior spoke volumes. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate : r/Chriswatts - Reddit Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? We are different, but I love her dearly and if my son loves her Im also in her corner then. Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. His father Clifford Entwistle has just written a book saying hes innocent, they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. I do suspend any judgement on Shanann. Did anyone else watch that video of sister Jamie having a - Reddit That isnt even what happened. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. My opinion of the Watts family is that they are some of the scummiest people in the world. I think over time with the unsettling dynamics in the house, Chris immediate family, her family, Chris parent, sister, all full of animosity towards each other, bothered Chris. 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She had many faults within herself. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. She didnt stir the shit enough was her problem. While Chris' parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. Chris Watts. He is a prison success story and she risked that reputation. He went gray rock very early on in life to deal to cope with his mother. jamie williams (chris's sister) : r/Chriswatts - Reddit His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding.
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